EGR??

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cste3361
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EGR??

Post by cste3361 »

Hi guys, I’m wondering whether my EGR has been deleted or not on my 1.9PD 2007.

When I look online at the same model I see the EGR has this metal disk (ufo looking thing…lol) with a vacuum hose going into the top like in this picture
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Mine does not have this? Here’s a pic of mine

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Is mine just an earlier model without it or has a previous owner put a blanking kit on ?
If anyone could help that would be great

thanks

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Re: EGR??

Post by PeterAFox »

mine is like yours and the egr is still on it.
There are different engine models - what's your engine code? The one with the vacuum actuator is BJB, yours is probably either a BLS or BSU in which the EGR is operated by a solenoid (black box behind, with connector on)
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Re: EGR??

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Thanks Peter,

The engine code is *BLS529251*

Here’s a couple of pics of that back Image
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Re: EGR??

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yea. The egr has kind of two solenoids - one for the 'valve' (N18) and one for the 'flap' (V157)
The one for the valve is marked in the blue circle.
The one for the flap is located behind (green arrow)
The cable that goes to the flap solenoid runs between egr and rocker cover (just visible, yellow arrow). If you take the big fat hose off you can access it much easier (and have a look in/clean the flap).
If you switch the engine off after running it, you can hear / see the flap flapping for a bit - that is correct.
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so it doesn't look like your egr is deleted, but maybe a metal disc has been put in somewhere...
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Re: EGR??

Post by cste3361 »

Thanks for the detailed explanation Peter,

I’ll take the hose off and have a good look this weekend. I am looking at prices for EGR deletes at local tuners but they’re averaging out at about £300+ Does that sound about right?

I’ve also heard the BLS EGR’s don’t usually cause as many problems as the new models as there’s more airflow so I’m undecided whether to or not.


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Re: EGR??

Post by IamAnon »

Hi, There are many good videos on youtube that show you how to easily delete your EGR for nothing.
£300 sounds like daylight robbery for a 10 minute job :)

All the best
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Re: EGR??

Post by PeterAFox »

Here, if you do an EGR delete, you lose the roadworthiness and therefore insurance coverage. Big kaka. I don't really understand why it's so fashionable.

In my experience, the main problems that arise with the EGR on BLS engines is its cooler and associated pipes/hoses, and it's not easy to access (normally one drops the subframe, drains all fluids etc.). The cooler actuator is vacuum operated, so a leaky vacuum control system can cause problems,
But it's in the nature of the beast. A common symptom is that you get black smoke from exhaust whilst everything else is good / limpish mode. The coolers seem to last about 200 k km on average, so if you change the turbo and have money it maybe worth changing the EGR-cooler at the same time - there are low quality ones on the market which I would avoid like the plague (to take the subframe off etc. a second time is a real PITA).

Otherwise, most common is wiring damage - the other EGR components seem to be quite reliable, but even so, they are not difficult to change.
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