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Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:38 am
by caddyz
the wheels look abit silly to be honest :?

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:02 am
by shaun
i quiet like it ;)

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:54 am
by topsparky
that looks awesome mate
how long did it take to build it??
ooh sorry
i like your caddy to mate
i like the wheels they really suit the caddy imho

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:23 pm
by colm1988
white walls, moon discs and salt plain racing stickers= class 8)

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:29 am
by Preen59
colm1988 wrote:found this today
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Haha! That's my van.. Where'd you find that? I've never seen that pic before!

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:30 am
by Preen59
Gees, it's been a while since I've updated this!


The Caddy did it's first track day last weekend at Wakefield..

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I went with a couple of mates from Orange, one of which owns the 996 Carrera Cup car on the left.

We had a ball. I just ran the 17s with street tyres and got it down to a 1:22.5, which I thought was reasonably respectable considering the vehicle. I got a lot of odd looks and it had a lot of people talking.

I was able to fill up in Orange, drive to Goulburn, beat the van around the track all day, drive home and still have a 1/4 tank left. Not bad I reckon.


This also showed it's weaknesses. The rear end needs a heavier sway bar and a panhard rod. The front needs harder control arm bushes, more camber and more caster. The brakes aren't up to the challenge for more than about 6 laps.


This all came at an opportunistic time, as I was just due for brakes all round (105k km on the original brakes).


I sourced a set of very low km Mk6 GTI front brakes from Miss Vuks. I thought the rear discs were the same as GTI, so I ordered a set of DBA 4000 T3 "Club Spec" rear slotted discs and EBC Yellow pads.

Disc Brakes Australia | 4000 T3 - Disc Brakes Australia

I'll probably order a set of those for the front, too. I have EBC Yellow coming for the front, so I'll change them over at a later date.



Then came today..

I fitted the Mk6 GTI brakes. The GTI rear discs didn't fit- The pads are the same, but the discs are bigger. I need GTI rear caliper carriers to fit the discs. The offset and thickness is the same and they're about 26mm bigger in diameter. I machined the rear OEM discs and re-fitted with EBC yellow pads. It now stops quite well and should be able to do that repeatedly for a bit longer, now.

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Sammy has removed his rear brakes from his Mk6 GTI for R32 brakes, so I've lined up those for the rear of the van. When I swap them, I'll be able to run the rear DBA rotors. I'll do this quickly and the pads should be right to swap over onto a new disc.


I have a set of Supaloy control arms on the way. This will give me stiffer bushes, more caster, more camber available via the adjustable lower ball joints and they're a heck of a lot lighter. Panhard rod will be reasonably straight forward. Stiffer rear sway bar will be interesting, but I'm going to see what I can get.


I've been in contact with Volkswagen Racing UK about their racing Caddys and got some further input from them about chassis. They gave me some tyre pressure info to run/try and told me i'm on the right path in regards to the rest.


I'm also going to look at adapting either a VWR intake or an APR Carbonio..

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Should be interesting times ahead.. :)

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:56 pm
by hedge
Preen59 wrote:Gees, it's been a while since I've updated this!


The Caddy did it's first track day last weekend at Wakefield..


I went with a couple of mates from Orange, one of which owns the 996 Carrera Cup car on the left.

We had a ball. I just ran the 17s with street tyres and got it down to a 1:22.5, which I thought was reasonably respectable considering the vehicle. I got a lot of odd looks and it had a lot of people talking.

I was able to fill up in Orange, drive to Goulburn, beat the van around the track all day, drive home and still have a 1/4 tank left. Not bad I reckon.


This also showed it's weaknesses. The rear end needs a heavier sway bar and a panhard rod. The front needs harder control arm bushes, more camber and more caster. The brakes aren't up to the challenge for more than about 6 laps.


This all came at an opportunistic time, as I was just due for brakes all round (105k km on the original brakes).


I sourced a set of very low km Mk6 GTI front brakes from Miss Vuks. I thought the rear discs were the same as GTI, so I ordered a set of DBA 4000 T3 "Club Spec" rear slotted discs and EBC Yellow pads.

Disc Brakes Australia | 4000 T3 - Disc Brakes Australia

I'll probably order a set of those for the front, too. I have EBC Yellow coming for the front, so I'll change them over at a later date.



Then came today..

I fitted the Mk6 GTI brakes. The GTI rear discs didn't fit- The pads are the same, but the discs are bigger. I need GTI rear caliper carriers to fit the discs. The offset and thickness is the same and they're about 26mm bigger in diameter. I machined the rear OEM discs and re-fitted with EBC yellow pads. It now stops quite well and should be able to do that repeatedly for a bit longer, now.



Sammy has removed his rear brakes from his Mk6 GTI for R32 brakes, so I've lined up those for the rear of the van. When I swap them, I'll be able to run the rear DBA rotors. I'll do this quickly and the pads should be right to swap over onto a new disc.


I have a set of Supaloy control arms on the way. This will give me stiffer bushes, more caster, more camber available via the adjustable lower ball joints and they're a heck of a lot lighter. Panhard rod will be reasonably straight forward. Stiffer rear sway bar will be interesting, but I'm going to see what I can get.


I've been in contact with Volkswagen Racing UK about their racing Caddys and got some further input from them about chassis. They gave me some tyre pressure info to run/try and told me i'm on the right path in regards to the rest.


I'm also going to look at adapting either a VWR intake or an APR Carbonio..


Should be interesting times ahead.. :)
Good interesting feedback from someone in the know, please report back with photos! (especially the panrod arm, as I only really thought they benefited rwd sets only)

rear sway bar look at either the maxi one as its 2mm thicker and cheap or whiteline (same size as the maxi one)
personally I wouldn't waste much time on the air intake as the tdi's don't seem to benefit, (look exhaust for the power gains)

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 8:49 am
by Preen59
hedge wrote:Good interesting feedback from someone in the know, please report back with photos! (especially the panrod arm, as I only really thought they benefited rwd sets only)

rear sway bar look at either the maxi one as its 2mm thicker and cheap or whiteline (same size as the maxi one)
personally I wouldn't waste much time on the air intake as the tdi's don't seem to benefit, (look exhaust for the power gains)
The panhard rod will stop the rear end floating from side to side, stabilising it. At the moment, it's relying on the bushes in the springs to keep everything in the right spot, and that's a bit of an ask.

I have some chromoly tube here i'll probably use.. The actual fabrication should be straight forward. I'll most likely mount it to the plate on the top of the axle where the spring mounts. Attaching it to the body may be a little bit more tricky.

I'm an APR/VWR dealer, so it's not as much of an expense for me to change the inlet.. Plus I'd like some induction noise. Haha!


Thanks for the tip on exhaust. I'm going to get rid of the pancake muffler at the rear, as I've seen guys get good gains from that. I'll look at going further (full system) possibly at a later date.

Re: Preeny's Caddy

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:25 am
by Preen59
Just doing some research on sway bars..

It would appear that the Caddy sway bars are the same as Golf 5.

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... er=BWF19XZ

http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_det ... er=BWR20XZ


KW (I'm a KW Suspension dealer) doesn't list Caddy, so I was in search of something else. If this is the case, I will get a KW adjustable front and rear sway bar kit for the Mk5.. Easy done!